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The Greg McKeown Podcast

334. Leading Through: Activating the Soul, Heart, and Mind of Leadership with The Clark Family (Part 1)

The Greg McKeown Podcast

Greg McKeown

Education, Business, Self-improvement

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

About the Guests: Kim Clark: Former Dean of Harvard Business School and President of BYU Idaho. He has an extensive career in academia and leadership, shaping and leading renowned educational institutions. Jonathan Clark: A PhD from Harvard and currently a professor at the University of Texas. Jonathan brings a wealth of knowledge from both his executive education experiences and extensive fieldwork. Erin Clark: Managing Director and US National Leader for Deloitte’s Human Capital Consulting's leadership offerings. With over 20 years of experience as an executive coach, Erin specializes in fostering leadership and driving organizational change. Episode Summary: Greg is joined by the dynamic Clark family trio: Kim, Jonathan, and Erin Clark. Together, they explore challenging paradigms within modern organizations, emphasizing the detrimental impacts of the "power over" model and introducing their revolutionary "leading through" approach. This paradigm shift is pivotal in restoring personal agency within organizations, leading to enhanced innovation, productivity, and employee well-being. Throughout the episode, the Clarks present compelling arguments that highlight the necessity of recognizing and cultivating true leadership across the board, extending beyond mere compliance to inspiring genuine engagement and unity. Key Takeaways: Power Over Paradigm: Many modern organizations operate under a control-focused paradigm that limits personal agency and stifles innovation. Leadership at All Levels: True leadership isn't confined to positions of authority; it should be nurtured at every level of an organization, empowering individuals to drive change. Counterfeit Unity: In power-over organizations, unity is often superficial, driven by compliance rather than genuine engagement and alignment with shared goals. Moral Core of Leadership: Leadership is inherently a moral act, emerging in moments of influence where choices can drive positive or negative impacts. Generating Light: Effective leaders foster environments of light, driving out fear and darkness, and enabling individuals to thrive and contribute meaningfully. Notable Quotes: Jonathan Clark: "Leadership is always and everywhere a moral act." Kim Clark: "One of the things that leaders do is they drive out darkness and they generate light." Greg McKeown: "You don't comply your way to the best work of your career." Resources: Buy The Clark's Book "Leading Through" Join my weekly newsletter. Learn more about my books and courses. Join The Essentialism Academy. Follow me on LinkedIn, Instagram, X, Facebook, and YouTube.

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forward slash 1MW. Welcome everybody I'm your host and this is the Greg McKeown podcast where of course we are pursuing the life and leadership of being an

0:58.5

essentialist. And today I'm honored to have three remarkable individuals join me here.

1:05.0

We have Kim Clark, Jonathan Clark and Aaron Clark.

1:09.0

You will notice they're all from the same family, which makes this even more interesting and impressive.

1:15.2

We have Kim Clark here who, among other things, was the dean of the Harvard Business School.

1:21.4

He also was a professor at Harvard and went on to be the president of

1:27.3

BYU Idaho. Not many people can say that. We have Dr. Jonathan Clark, who is currently a professor at the University of Texas.

1:36.7

He has a PhD from Harvard as well, but he brings insight both from his executive education experience,

1:44.0

working with organizations into the field as well.

1:47.0

And now Erren Clark, who is the managing director and US

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National Leader for Deloitte Human Capital Consulting's Leadership offerings.

1:55.3

That means, in practice, 20 years of experience as an executive coach in really figuring

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out what it takes to make things happen together.

2:05.0

They have written, co-authored a book, leading through.

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As the title, leading through, the subtitle is activating the sole heart and mind of leadership. So, Kim, John and Aaron, welcome to the podcast.

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It's a privilege to have it.

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Thank you, Greg.

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