Let's go.

Welcome to Citizen.

We have a long-requested guest today.

This thing is squeaking.

Sam Shumate, Sam-A-sore.

Sam-a-sore.

I don't know how you say. Yeahasore um you used to be one of the guys

or maybe still are i don't know about this actually that ran the terminal c w o account on

instagram and elsewhere and it was kind of like a bit of a clearinghouse for publishing fucked up shit the army was doing

or DOD in general I guess um and then you got out and became more visible public uh but still

do the same stuff and you know there's no shortage of content there because the government sucks and, you know.

Indeed.

All that.

But let's start with your background a little bit.

Where did you grow up?

I grew up in Colorado, northern Colorado.

Born in Wyoming, grew up in northern Colorado, then joined the Army at 18 and it's off to the races all over the world why why did I join the army

yeah uh to be honest at the time I you know I didn't want to go to college I just I was burnt out

on school and there just happened to be a army recruiter at my school was handing out keychains

and I was like I want a keychain so I signed the form and then he contacted me and it was kind of light bulb

moment and I said, yeah, sure, let's do that. So it wasn't a whole lot of thought that went into it.

It was just sounded like a cool thing to do. What was your first job?

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