Hey, everyone, it's Reid. Before we get started today, I just want to say it's almost April, everybody. Donald Trump is in trouble. He is in trouble. Recent primaries are showing that somewhere between 25 and 30 percent of Republican voters don't want him. But now is not the time to get complacent. It is not the time to say we've got to beat. In fact, it is the time to double down. Do what you can in your state, in your county, in your city, in your community, in your neighborhood to make sure that we, the pro-democracy movement, are successful in November. Get out there, gang, whatever it is. A political organization, a charitable organization,

a voter rights organization, a voter registration organization, working as a poll worker. Your work

makes a difference, guys. It all adds up. It builds democracy brick by brick. Let's get after

it, gang. Thanks. And on with the show.

Yeah. Rick. Let's get after it, gang. Thanks, and on with the show. Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reed Galen. Today, I'm joined by

Daniel Steinmetz-Chinkins, an assistant professor in the College of Social Studies at Wesleyan

University. He is a historian of modern political and intellectual thought, with a focus on Europe, and primarily

concentrates on the topics of history of the modern global peace movement, international human rights,

decolonization, theories of development, political economy, and the intersection of religion and politics.

He is the editor of the new book,

Did It Happen Here, Perspectives on Fascism and America, which is now available wherever fine books are sold.

Guys, do not let the title scare you. It is a great collection of essays. I hope you'll go out and get it.

Today, he's coming to us from Middletown, Connecticut. Danny, welcome to the show.

Thank you, Reed, so much for having me. Pleasure to be here. So I have many guests like you that are much more accomplished than I am. And when I read your bio, I'm like, okay, well, I'm almost 50 years in. I got a lot of work ahead of me. But thanks for joining me. As I said to you right before, I read a lot of books.

I interview a lot of authors. Most of them are excellent. Most of them I have a pretty good idea of what I'm getting into. And I'm always happy that it either, you know, look, everybody loves to be

confirmed in what they already think is true or think is right, or given additional examples of things that you were saying, doing, writing, whatever the case might be.

But this collection here actually got me thinking about a few things and sort of scratched my head.

And so before we actually get into the individual essays, why this, why now, why you?

This debate, which became one, it wasn't

apparent early on at least. It took two or three years before people started calling in a fascism

debate. It struck my curiosity not so much for what was appearing in places like, you know,

the New York Review of Books or the Republic or the

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