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Empire: World History

333. Bronze Age Apocalypse: The Fall of Troy with Stephen Fry (Ep 2)

Empire: World History

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History

4.55.4K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Stephen Fry joins William and Anita to discuss how Greek Myths have shaped our understanding of the Bronze Age Collapse.  Was the Trojan Horse real? What can we learn about the end of ancient civilisations through The Odyssey and The Iliad? How much truth lies within the story of the Trojan War, and where is the real archaeological site of Troy today?  Join the Empire Club: Unlock the full Empire experience – with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to miniseries and live show tickets, exclusive book discounts, a members-only newsletter, and access to our private Discord chatroom. Sign up directly at empirepoduk.com  For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com. Email: empire@goalhanger.com Instagram: @empirepoduk Blue Sky: @empirepoduk X: @empirepoduk Editor: Bruno Di Castri Producer: Anouska Lewis Executive Producer: Dom Johnson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We seem to be in the middle of a Homeric revival. The Odyssey is about to hit our screens and Stephen Fry's wonderful retelling of the story of the Iliad and the Odyssey is at the top of the bestseller lists.

1:30.3

We have him here with us. We are recording in Jaipo and he's going to tell us how much of the story in the Iliad and the Odyssey has a basis in reality.

2:03.6

We know Troy and Mycini from Homer and the ripple of novels and TV series and movies which have come from his work. But what was the actual history? What was the archaeology behind those stories? What happened in the Bronze Age

2:08.7

collapse that led to Troy and Mycini turning into empty ruins, just goat herds and olive trees?

2:16.4

Today we have none other than Stephen Fry, author of four

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