333 // Aurora w/ Kerrie Droban

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🗓️ 27 November 2022

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Check out our Subscription Service where we have a bundled our bonus material from both the Missing and Crawlspace shows! Ad-free episodes and more at https://missing.supportingcast.fm/ Use promo code, "Missing" for your first month FREE! Welcome to Crawlspace. In this episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna have a fascinating and thought-provoking conversation with author and attorney Kerrie Droban. With numerous appearances and interviews on national television and radio shows, Kerrie has established herself as an expert on motorcycle gangs and the pathology of the criminal mind. Kerrie’s new book “Aurora” was written alongside Dr. Lynne Fenton, who was James Holmes’s psychiatrist just months before Holmes entered a packed movie theater in Aurora Colorado and opened fire, killing 12 people and severely wounding over 70. “Aurora” is a riveting glimpse into the attack, the aftermath, the first-responders and the tenuous relationship between doctor and patient. To buy Kerrie’s books and stay up to date on everything she has going on, visit her website: https://www.kerriedroban.com/ To buy “Aurora” go to: https://www.kerriedroban.com/aurora-the-psychiatrist-who-treated-the-movie-theater-killer-tells-her-story/ Follow Kerrie… Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/kerriedroban Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KerrieDroban/?ref=hl This episode is brought to you in part by our wonderful sponsors, Modern Fertility, Vessi, ButcherBox & Best Fiends. Modern Fertility will help you find power in your fertility info and get proactive about your reproductive health. Get $30 off your fertility test when you go to https://modernfertility.com/Crawlspace30/ Vessi is a remarkable company that produces high quality, lightweight footwear and gloves that are 100% waterproof. We love them and you will too! Go to https://vessi.com/ and use code CRAWLSPACE for 15% off your entire order! ButcherBox was started with the idea that everyone should have access to high-quality, humanely raised meat. Each month, they deliver 100% grass-fed beef, humanely raised pork, and free-range organic chicken straight to your door. Sign up today at butcherbox.com/CRAWLSPACE and use code CRAWLSPACE to get Free Ribeyes for a Year plus $10 off. Download your new favorite getaway, BEST FIENDS, for FREE today on the App Store or Google Play. Another true crime show we are sure you'll enjoy is our friends Justin & Aaron from The Generation Why Podcast! Follow them on Amazon Music or listen early and ad free on Apple Podcasts or the Wondery App. Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.Instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast The music for Crawlspace was produced by David Flajnik. Listen to his music here: https://www.pond5.com/artist/bigdsound Check out our entire network at http://crawlspace-media.com/ Join the Crawlspace Discussion Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/talkcrawlspace/ Crawlspace Media is part of the Glassbox Media Network. Check them out here: https://glassboxmedia.com/ Go to https://smile.amazon.com/ to connect your existing Amazon account to donate to PI's For the Missing. Follow Private Investigations For the Missing https://investigationsforthemissing.org/ http://piftm.org/donate https://twitter.com/PIFortheMissing https://www.facebook.com/PIFortheMissing/ https://www.instagram.com/investigationsforthemissing/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is a Glassbox Media Podcast.
0:30.0	Welcome to Crawl Space. I'm Tim, here today with Lance. Lance, how are you today?
0:38.5	Doing fantastic today, Tim. Really couldn't be better. Hope everyone out there is feeling
0:42.6	as good as they possibly can, and Tim, spill it. How are you?
0:49.8	I'm doing great today. Thanks a lot for asking. I'm excited to introduce this conversation
0:55.2	with Carrie Drowman, who is an author and a lawyer, and she is really impressive. And she
1:02.9	co-wrote a book called Aurora, the psychiatrist who treated the movie theater killer tells
1:08.5	her story. And that doctor is Dr. Lynn Fenton, and Carrie Drowman wrote this book with
1:15.7	Dr. Fenton. And of course, this is about mass shooter James Holmes.
1:20.9	There are many moments during this interview that really surprised us. One of them being
1:24.7	that Dr. Lynn Fenton treated James for six sessions and came to the conclusion that he
1:31.9	was going to do something like this. And we cover a lot of gray area in terms of when
1:36.7	a psychiatrist is supposed to alert others that their patient is having thoughts of violence.
1:42.6	And because he didn't specifically say when and where he was going to kill people, she
1:47.0	wasn't at that point yet where she was obligated to notify law enforcement or James's parents.
1:51.9	He essentially said he kept having thoughts about people's lives having value, and he
1:56.4	needed to kill them in order to gain value for yourself. There are some remarkable moments
2:00.4	in this conversation where a doctor of psychiatry coined somebody as being evil, which we
2:05.7	explore in depth in this conversation. And the book is great. You can get it on Amazon
2:09.1	or wherever you get your books. And be sure to visit Carrie's website at CarrieDrowman.com
2:15.0	that's K-E-R-R-I-E-D-R-O-B-A-N. She's got a lot of cool books there. And we'll hopefully
2:22.4	have her on again to discuss these works. And if you want to hear crawl space ad free,
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