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The New Evangelicals Podcast

332. TNE TALKS: It's Okay to Be a Heretic

The New Evangelicals Podcast

Tim Whitaker

News, Religion & Spirituality, Politics, Christianity

4.6936 Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

In this TALKS Episode Tim engages with Matthew J. DiStefano, author of 'Heretic, Too!', exploring themes of theology, church experiences, and the concept of heresy. They discuss DiStefano's journey from conservative evangelicalism to a more progressive theology, including his views on Christian Universalism and the importance of dialogue in understanding faith. He discusses the challenges of navigating certainty and uncertainty in belief systems, the importance of personal experience in understanding faith, and the need for self-love and acceptance, especially for those in the LGBTQ community. Matthew's Website | allsetfree.com Matthew's New Book | Heretic, Too! Matthew's Podcast | Heretic Happy Hour Highlights: 01:05 Exploring Matthew Destefano's Journey and Works 06:08 The Concept of Heresy in Modern Theology 08:00 Understanding Christian Universalism 16:05 Navigating Reactions to Church Experiences 22:09 The Power and Meaning of the Term 'Heretic' 35:45 Finding a Path Forward in Faith 41:52 Redefining Jesus and the Christian Tradition _______________________________ If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You know what that is.

0:04.0

An ice cold beer.

0:07.0

What's different?

0:09.0

It's Budweiser.

0:11.0

Food longer for a refreshing, smooth taste.

0:15.0

Like no other.

0:20.0

Cheers to that. Budweiser, like no other.

0:22.3

Cheers to that.

0:25.3

Budweiser, like no other.

0:26.8

Please drink responsibly.

0:28.5

For the facts, visit drinkaware.com.

0:32.9

You're listening to the new evangelicals podcast.

0:45.4

You're listening to the new Evangelicals Talks.

0:47.4

I'm Tim, the host of this segment.

0:51.6

Join us every Monday as we talk to all different kinds of people at the intersection of theology, politics, and culture, helping you navigate a better path forward in your faith.

1:02.7

Hey friends, this is producer Josh Gilbert.

1:05.8

Today's episode is with Matthew Destafano and Matthew's book, Heretic 2, an LGBTQ celebrating divine violence-denying

1:14.7

post-Christian universalist's response to more of evangelicalism's concerns.

1:20.1

There were a couple tech issues with this episode, but we pulled it together and I'm really excited

1:24.3

for you to hear it. Thanks, friends.

1:40.0

I got to say, first off, Matthew, it is great to be back with you. You and I kind of go back at least a year or two now. We worked together before. We've talked a lot behind the scenes.

1:44.5

And I think, is this your second time on the podcast? Or have I been on your podcast? I'm trying to think.

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