#332 - The Futility Consensus

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Tv & Film

4.6 • 668 Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2022

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

The documentary WHITE NOISE (2020) follows three very prominent members of the alt-right (you'll be familiar with all of them, folks) as their fortunes rise and fall during the Trump era. We discuss the ethics of interviewing/"platforming" ideological enemies, the differing aesthetic styles of various alt-right personalities, and what happens to political "scenes" during periods of eclipse. PLUS: Luke takes stock of the Canadian Conservative leadership race, and Liam Neeson makes a movie about the U.S./Mexico border.

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0:00.0	If you like the Michael and Us podcast, then I think you'll definitely like more of the Michael
0:09.6	and Us podcast. That's right, folks, at patreon.com slash Michael and Us, we have an extra premium episode
0:16.2	every week. That's four a month for the low, low price of $5.
0:26.5	Some of our recent Patreon episodes have included discussions on Bill Maher's new stand-up special, hashtag adulting, Akira Kurosawa's masterpiece High and Low, the new miniseries
0:32.5	Secrets of Playboy, and a listener-selected episode on the documentary RBG. Remember, folks, that's patreon.com
0:40.2	slash Michael and Us. Now on with the show.
0:57.0	Welcome to Michael and Us. I'm Will Sloan. Here as always with.
1:00.8	Luke Savage, welcome back, everyone.
1:02.5	I'm fond on this podcast of quoting the late great Gene Siskel when he said that movies were the national dream beat.
1:09.2	Because we're fond of talking in this podcast about how
1:12.1	cinema and all art, I guess, is a way for a nation, a society to process its trauma. So when
1:19.7	Siskel said that, you're telling me he was actually channeling Siegfried Krakauer and the Frankfurt
1:25.0	school. Well, Krakauer was often called the Gene Siscoll of his day.
1:29.1	Anyway, I want to bring up a movie that I went to see last night that I'm not quite sure where
1:33.9	to place it in this formulation. I went to see the new Liam Neeson action movie memory, which
1:39.8	sometimes I like to get out there and go panning for gold amongst the sort of, you know, the B movies that are playing on the screens that Marvel hasn't taken up.
1:48.9	So this movie was pretty bad. But here's what was interesting about it. I didn't know anything about this movie going in, but it's a movie that is set in El Paso, Texas, against the backdrop of the U.S. border crisis.
2:00.7	And it's very much about kids in cages and all
2:03.7	that sort of thing. Liam Neeson plays a hitman who, you know, he's got one last job and it ends up getting
2:10.2	him entangled in this sex trafficking conspiracy that implicates this oligarch who owns the various detention centers at the U.S.
2:20.2	border.
2:20.7	She's played by Monica Balucci.
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