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newsletter at greendreamer.com. For now, on to today's episode where we're speaking with

Konda Mason. You know, there's all kinds of capital, right?

There's financial capital.

We did not have, as I did not have, a lot of financial capital growing up.

But our currency absolutely was love.

And that currency is way more powerful than any piece of paper that we agree on that has some kind of meaning to it.

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