330: Was Gille de Rais Really One of History's Worst Serial Killers? w/ Margot K. Juby

Most Notorious! A True Crime History Podcast

Erik Rivenes

True Crime, History, Education

4.7 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2024

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Gille de Rais is a complicated historical figure. On one hand he was a French military hero - a man who fought side by side with Joan of Arc - and revered for his service to church and state. On the other he was an accused heretic, an occultist, and the self-confessed serial killer of hundreds of children. My guest is Margot K. Juby, author of "The Martyrdom of Gilles de Rais". She believes that there is not enough evidence to prove that de Rais committed the monstrous crimes he has been accused of, and argues her case on this latest episode of Most Notorious. A short animated film about the author and her book here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBYgr7L-NSk The author's blog: http://www.gillesderaiswasinnocent.co.uk/ The author's Twitter/X handle: https://twitter.com/MorbidMorag Buy her book on US Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Martyrdom-Gilles-Rais-Margot-Juby/dp/1729561357 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:39.6	Welcome everyone to another episode of the most notorious podcast. I'm Eric Riveness. Thank you for being here.
0:47.0	So a few quick words before today's episode, I'll admit I didn't know much about Jill DeRae before picking up my guest's book.
0:56.8	And I got to say reading it felt a lot like reading a fantasy novel, a horror novel.
1:04.4	The accusations against De Reh are so outrageous.
1:09.1	His alleged crimes so completely disgusting, horrifying, but I wasn't even really sure how to take it all in.
1:18.0	I mean, if he did what he was accused of doing, he has to be one of the worst human beings to ever walk the face of the
1:25.9	earth. No question. I mean it's so bad that there's almost a disconnect,
1:31.1	especially when you add in elements like
1:34.0	alchemy, demons, magic.
1:36.2	It felt like I was reading a game of Thrones novel
1:41.4	at some points in the story, like fiction almost.
1:46.0	And we barely scratched the surface of all of this today.
1:50.7	We do touch on the crimes he's accused of just enough for me to feel that I need to mention that listener discretion is advised.
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