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Grumpy Old Geeks, a weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schultmeister and Jason

DeFilippo discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the internet and who's to blame.

Welcome to Grumpy Old Geeks on Jason DeFilippo.

And I'm Brian Schultmeister.

Six years, Brian. This is the actual six-year anniversary show.

Amazing.

It's a pretty amazing. I saw you put that in there and I had some thoughts about that as I was

taking my bike ride this morning and I'm sure you had some thoughts as well.

So no time like the presence since if we're going to reminisce it all, now is the time.

Thinking six years ago, I was still in my 30s. So not quite the Grumpy Old Geek that I am today.

I think I was relatively recently married and I was still was doing my company

and my company was still pretty successful at that point. But certainly the writing was on the

wall. We could see the music industry getting devalued. We could see web design being devalued.

So I kind of knew what was coming and saying, hey, okay, I'll try this podcasting thing with you.

Let's see where it takes us. Turns out not very far.

But yeah, so here we are six years on still doing it.

You know, got a kid now. So I'm part time dad, part time podcaster. After 20 years,

I actually dissolved my previous company, which I could be a little bit sad about it.

But 20 year run is pretty impressive actually. I'm proud of it. You're good. You're good, man.

You're good. It was a good run. But here we are doing the podcast thing and we're not making a ton

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