The The Oh, Welcome to another sparking addition of the Thought Police with me Mike Graham and him

Matt Kelly. Hello, new European. Formerly him Matt Kelly for New European

formerly the editor of the New European have you found actually that your

now that your role has been elevated to publisher yeah do you do the same thing that

you used to do or no not you do a lot less work?

No, well no I don't do a lot less work.

But you just sit in a room just in case anyone from the businesses listening.

Having high level conversations and talks with people I mean.

Rather than what I meant was, so I should rephrase that, a lot less kind of, you know,

hands-on work.

Well Jasper, the new editor is, you know know he looks after it from start to finish really.

The only thing I still get involved in is is sort of like throwing my weight in on the covers

which I enjoy doing.

And the covers are great, aren't they?

Yeah.

So you'd be quite famous for those.

Have you thought about doing them as a book or something?

We should do, shouldn't we?

You really should.

If it ever sort of stops we should do a new European cover book.

But if we featured in a in an exhibition at the design museum in London

about political protests and they had this whole kind of area given over to the new European

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