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Birdshot Podcast

#329 | A discussion on started dogs, training, bird hunting and more with Mark Dinsmore

Birdshot Podcast

Nick Larson

Leisure, Science, Sports, Nature, Hobbies, Wilderness

4.8971 Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2025

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of The Birdshot Podcast, host Nick Larson sits down with Mark Dinsmore, an experienced bird dog trainer and upland hunting enthusiast. Mark shares his story of becoming an adult-onset hunter, transitioning from no prior bird dog experience to developing a very accomplished French Brittany in the country. They discuss Mark’s journey with his bird dogs, particularly Vern, and explore topics such as gun conditioning, breeding, and field trials. The conversation also covers the challenges of owning multiple dogs, the differences between American and French Brittanys, and the importance of training dogs to be steady and reliable in the field. Mark Dinsmore is an avid bird hunter and dog trainer with decades of experience working with Epagneul Breton. Mark’s journey into bird hunting began when he was 46, with no prior experience, but his dedication to the breed and passion for upland hunting led him to train and compete with his dogs at a high level. His dog Vern became one of the most well-known and accomplished French Brittanys in the United States. Mark is also known for his deep understanding of dog behavior and training, and he has had extensive experience working with multiple breeds, including several European and American lines. Expect to Learn Mark’s journey into bird hunting and how he started training dogs at 46 years old. The significance of Vern, his first French Brittany, and how he became an award-winning field dog. The differences between French Brittanys and American Brittanys, and how they are trained for upland hunting. The importance of gun conditioning, field trials, and training dogs to remain steady. Insights into the challenges and rewards of owning multiple dogs, including the process of evaluating and choosing a "started dog."  Episode Breakdown with Timestamps: [00:00:00] - Introduction to Mark Dinsmore [00:09:28] - Mark’s Background [00:13:45] - Mark landing on Epagneul Breton [00:23:07] - What Sets Vern Apart  [00:32:18] - What does it take to be considered a French Brittany [00:44:47] - Choosing a Started Dog vs. a Puppy [01:03:42] - Option for Clients to do a Started Dog or Puppy [01:05:44] - Taking Pups Out for Exposure [01:27:24] - Closing Thoughts and How to Connect  Follow the Guest: Facebook: https://web.facebook.com/mark.dinsmore.7965  Company’s Facebook:https://web.facebook.com/ebretons  Follow Host Nick: Instagram: @birdshot.podcast Website: www.birdshotpodcast.com Listening Links: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/17EVUDJPwR2iJggzhLYil7 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/birdshot-podcast/id1288308609 YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@birdshot.podcast SUPPORT | http://www.patreon.com/birdshotUse Promo Code | BSP20 to save 20% on https://www.onxmaps.com/hunt/app Use Promo Code | BS10 to save 10% on https://trulockchokes.com/ The Birdshot Podcast is Presented By: https://www.onxmaps.com/

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0:00.0

You had listened to something or read something about started dogs versus puppies, and that's a common thing that comes up in some of the avenues that somebody would find themselves.

0:08.4

Considering a started dog, what are some of the misconceptions and maybe define what a started dog is, and then we'll go from there.

0:15.2

Well, defining what a started dog is depends. And that depends on the person you're talking to.

0:20.7

But I think that there's some

0:21.9

things that it should absolutely have. First off, gun condition. Secondly, introduction to birds.

0:28.4

Most people don't have access to a quail or a chucker to introduce them to the bird the first time.

0:34.0

They don't have access to large tracts of land to let the dog run to what its

0:39.9

potential is. But to me, the person you're getting a started dog from, you need to talk to them

0:44.7

and find out exactly what they mean by started. Go out and see the dog. Is it doing what you want?

0:50.8

It's almost apples to oranges, really, because a puppy, what comes to mind

0:54.3

is an eight-week-old puppy, whereas a started dog could be six months old or a started dog could

0:59.5

be five years old. And then it's all what characteristics or what training experience does that

1:04.2

individual started dog have. So to your point, it's what the person means by a started dog is

1:08.9

a big difference. A lot of the reason people want started dogs is a lot of people don't have the time or they don't know how to do these things.

1:17.8

Now, to a point, it's not rocket science.

1:20.0

You can learn how to do it.

1:21.1

To come in to start, I would recommend...

1:23.6

...and......and... I recommend.

1:32.0

Hey everyone.

1:33.0

Nick Larson here,

1:34.5

host of the Birdshot podcast,

1:36.6

the show where we go beyond the flush to explore the full upland hunting experience

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