Welcome to the Pure Desire Podcast, helping you take back your life from unwanted sexual behavior

and betrayal trauma.

Good morning or whatever time it is for you.

I am your host Trevor Windsor and you're listening to episode 327 of a Pure Desire

Podcasts.

Here joining me as always is my co-host, Nick Stambo.

Just when I think you couldn't possibly get any dumber, you go out and totally redeem yourself. Oh, I should totally know this.

It's not dumb and dumber, is it? It is. Is it dumb and dumber? Okay. Because that's, yeah, okay. All right. All right. I can go to sleep in that piece tonight.

It's when he goes out and he sells their shaggin wagon, the one that's covered like a dog and buys that tiny little moped for their trip across country. And he doesn't he like because they drive to Aspen, right? And then they get there and

he's like, you had a separate pair of gloves the whole time. They're both freezing and there's

icicles coming out of their nostrils. Any piece. That's the best. Oh, it's so funny. Okay. So,

dumb and dumber. Um, interested to see how that ties into, uh, the episode today. But we had Ashley Jameson on.

Uh, she's our associate director of women's groups. And we talked about really it's

milestones in the recovery and healing journey. Yeah. Well, the truth is, Trevor, that in this

journey, most of us have done some pretty dumb stuff.

And had spouses that would say, yeah, dumb and dumber in terms of the behaviors and choices and addiction.

And so in recovery, we're looking for what does redemption look like?

What does it look like to undo, to unravel, to unlearn our past?

And in a new way, be able to mark and celebrate, hey, we're

moving in a different direction. I'm not the person that I used to be. And here's some ways that we

can actually mark or put a stake down and say, this is different, this has changed. And maybe even

in some ways, say, and it's been this long or this much growth. And so that's what made me think of that,

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