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The Realignment

326 | Ian Kershaw: The Personalities Who Built and Destroyed Modern Europe

The Realignment

The Realignment

Saager Enjeti, Technology, Policy, News, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, Politics, News Commentary, Public Policy, U.s. Politics, National Security, Economics

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2022

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Ian Kershaw, author of Personality and Power: Builders and Destroyers of Modern Europe, Hitler: A Biography, and The Global Age: Europe, 1950-2017, joins The Realignment to discuss how the characters and personalities of individual 20th-century European leaders led to triumph and tragedy. Ian and Marshall also discuss his evaluations of despots ranging from Hitler, Stalin, and Lenin to democratic leaders such as de Gaulle, Churchill, and Adenauer, and how we should approach today's authoritarian leaders. From one of the leading historians of twentieth-century Europe and the author of the definitive biography of Hitler, Personality and Power is a masterful reckoning with how character conspired with opportunity to create the modern age’s uniquely devastating despots—and how and why other countries found better paths. The modern era saw the emergence of individuals who had command over a terrifying array of instruments of control, persuasion and death. Whole societies were reshaped and wars were fought, often with a merciless contempt for the most basic norms. At the summit of these societies were leaders whose personalities somehow enabled them to do whatever they wished, regardless of the consequences for others. Ian Kershaw’s new book is a compelling, lucid and challenging attempt to understand these rulers, whether those operating on the widest stage (Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini) or with a more national impact (Tito, Franco). What was it about these leaders, and the times in which they lived, that allowed them such untrammelled and murderous power? And what brought that era to an end? In a contrasting group of profiles—from Churchill to de Gaulle, Adenauer to Gorbachev and Thatcher to Kohl)

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Marshall here, welcome back to the Realignment.

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We are nearing the end of our daily series this month before the holiday break, so a couple

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of notes.

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Number one, Sagan and I are going to be back live in Washington DC for an event such

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conference we're calling the Realignment Live.

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It's running on January 25th, 2023.

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You can click the link at the top of the show notes or check the sub-stack on Friday to

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see how you can get your tickets.

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Two, this is a book, a centric episode, so it's the perfect time to shout out the Real

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ignment's book shop storefront.

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Honestly one of the proudest things I could say about the show is that we move a significant

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number of books.

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I have especially noticed that people started picking up more books from the book shop,

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considering it's the holiday season, so definitely go check the link.

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Bookshop supports local booksellers and gives us a hefty commission.

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We've built a bunch of lists from our favorite books of the year to ones written by previous

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guests, including today's guest Ian Kershaw.

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The links are available in the show notes.

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Last but not least, if you are enjoying these episodes, putting out this daily series,

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you can go check out realignment.supercast.com or you could click the link at the top of

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the show notes where you could support the show's work.

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On to today's guest, I'm speaking, as I mentioned, Ian Kershaw, author of the recently

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