I dreamt that you were twisting through seven sons of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that his story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning

that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hello and welcome to the Soberful podcast.

I am delighted to be joined here by Mary Alice Stevens.

Hi.

Did you like Mary Alice or just Mary?

Either one is fine. I grew up as Mary

Alice and then became Mary. But then when I started writing, I'm like, Mary Stevens sounds so

generic. I put the Alice back in. Okay. All right. Cool. Nice to meet you, Mary. Mary is the

author of a new book that's just come out called Uncorked, which is, well, I'm going to let

you tell the story, but you are a writer by trade, right? Yes, I wrote for television for a long time,

not the exciting television, but more like travel shows, home design shows on HGTV, Food Network shows.

But believe it or not, those have scripted parts to them.

So I was a writer and a producer.

Oh, interesting.

Okay, let's start with why did you decide to write a book about your relationship with alcohol and

sobriety?

Well, when I was newly sober, which I got sober in 2011,

I devoured sobriety memoirs. I was so used to drinking every night, having a glass of wine in

my hand that I turned to reading and it made it so much less lonely to have somebody else to kind

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