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Timesuck with Dan Cummins

324 - The Mouse Utopia Experiments

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

Dan Cummins

True Crime, Society & Culture, Religion, Conspiracies, History, Biographies, Education, Adult Humor, Comedy, Dark Humor, Conspiracy, Cults

4.721.6K Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2022

⏱️ 153 minutes

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Summary

Strange and thought provoking episode today! In the 1940s, 50s, and early 60s, animal behavior researcher John B Calhoun ran a number of experiments on rodents, and concluded that increased urbanization spells doom for a species. He warned that over population and urbanization would bring an end to humanity. Was he right?

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0:00.0

I look at Gotham my friends and what do I see?

0:02.5

Gangs roam the streets attacking it will.

0:05.2

Stress-related illness, crime, murder.

0:08.0

Their society is collapsing around them just like Universe 133.

0:12.5

These words spoken by the supervillain, the rat catcher,

0:15.5

to an audience of rats in a 1995 Batman comic

0:18.5

embody a popular suspicion of the metropolis.

0:21.6

Of the city gone bad, riddled with crime,

0:23.9

overpopulation and interpersonal violence.

0:26.8

They also reflect the influence of one John B. Calhoun,

0:30.3

an animal ecologist who studied the effects of crowding on social animals,

0:34.2

specifically rats and mice, at the National Institute of Mental Health.

0:38.0

Calhoun's early research was published in 1962

0:40.7

and went on to become some of the most widely referenced in psychology for a time.

0:44.9

But odds are like me, you've likely never heard of Calhoun in his weird experiments.

0:49.3

The Universe 133 mentioned in the Batman comic is a direct reference

0:52.7

to one of Calhoun's specifically constructed rodent universes.

0:56.6

Inclosures, where the animals were provided with plenty of food,

0:59.9

bedding, and shelter and allowed to breed.

1:02.1

The enclosure was designed to be a veritable rat or mouse,

1:05.0

Calhoun ran experiments on both rodents, paradise.

1:08.4

All their needs were taken care of.

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