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324. Testing the Alliance: The Russian Drone Incursion

Battleground

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4.5820 Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

This week, hosts Saul David and Roger Moorhouse discuss a series of momentous events that could be seen as a turning point in the war.

They analyse a shocking Russian glide bomb attack on civilians in eastern Ukraine, a historic drone incursion into Polish airspace, and the hardening of attitudes within NATO.

The hosts also examine the political fallout from these events, including the reactions of Donald Trump and other Western leaders, and the latest news from Russia.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Battleground Ukraine with me Saul David and Roger Morehouse.

0:17.8

It's been another momentous week, which we might, just might, Roger, look back on

0:22.4

as a decisive turning point in the war. First on Tuesday came the shocking news that a Russian glide bomb

0:28.4

had killed 24 elderly people queuing to collect pensions in a village in Dornetsk, eastern Ukraine.

0:35.4

President Zelensky commented on this by saying a guided bomb had struck the

0:38.8

village of Yorova about 15 miles from the city of Sloviansky Ukrainian stronghold and several

0:45.0

kilometers behind the front line. It was directly on people, ordinary people at the very moment

0:50.5

when pensions were being dispersed. he wrote on X alongside footage showing bodies

0:55.7

strewn across the ground. Twenty-four were killed in another 19 wounded. The state emergency said

1:01.0

all of the dead were elderly, said regional governor, Vadim Filashkin. Now, this, Roger, was just the

1:07.3

latest in a series of escalatory Russian attacks on civilian infrastructure

1:11.3

in Ukraine, including on Monday the largest aerial attack of the war involving 13 missiles and

1:17.2

810 drones and decoy drones which struck targets across Ukraine, including Kiev government

1:23.4

buildings for the first time, and killed at least eight civilians and injured 59.

1:28.8

Yes, all of this is clearly a big two fingers from Putin to Donald Trump,

1:33.4

whose big talk of a ceasefire at the Alaska summit has come to nothing, as of course we

1:37.8

predicted. But if a ramping up of indiscriminate airstrikes on Ukraine were not bad enough,

1:43.2

Russian provocation was about to get a lot

1:45.1

worse, wasn't it, all? Because on Wednesday came news that 19 Russian drones, including decoys,

1:51.4

had entered Polish airspace, prompting the scrambling of Polish, Dutch and Italian planes to intercept

1:57.1

them. Well, it seems that only four of the drones were actually shot down because those

2:01.0

were the killer variety that posed a lethal threat to human life. The others either ran out of

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