Okay, I have my dear friend Shima Boffin with me today.

Sheima, I am so excited to chat with you today.

There's so many fun things we could talk about.

But for anyone who isn't familiar with you yet, can you give just like a brief intro of who

you are and what you do?

Okay, sure. I'm an immigrant from Iran. That's significant. I came to the U.S. when I was

seven, speaking no English. So second grade showed up in the U.S. and we were meant to go back to

Iran, but ended up staying in the U.S. because my mom found the Church of Jesus Christ, Lauderday

Saint, decided to convert.

She was very much converted and felt like she wanted to, you know, become a Christian, which is against

the law where we came from. And so she told my dad, well, I'm not going to go back because they'll

kill me. So we need a stay in America. So we ended up, you know, leaving everything, a life of,

you know, my dad was a neurosurgeon in Iran. We left all of that, came to the U.S., going to the

church. And most of my upbringing in the U.S., we moved around a lot because my dad was trying

to get residency again. It's a doctor. He became a neurologist in the U.S. here. But in all those years, like the big theme, you look at my little

journals as an 8 to 10 or 12 year old, it was all about the church. We went to this church activity.

We got dressed out. I got dresses. Sometimes we didn't have a lot. And so the church was just

a like source of love for us. And we just got to, you know, feel love, did invite it to places we never

would have been invited to make friends we never would have made. And so that was a real big part

of our lives. And then, you know, we ended up in New York. I was raised in New York as kind of a young

woman. And then high school ended up going to BYU. And then BYU lost. I became a lawyer,

then became a law professor.

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