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but the freedom marchers or whatever, they just walked past Luke's apartment. These are the

anti-mask people who do a parade every weekend. I think it was, I think there were 50 of them out

there, you know, holding their Canadian flags and whatever. And what's funny is we actually don't have any restrictions anymore in Toronto.

They've kept going after, there's no, like, I'm never sure what to call them because, you know, for a while, you know, I was calling them the anti-vaxxers because, like, that was the thing that was animating them.

You know, it was like, don't get the vaccines.

Then it became, you know, anti-mandate stuff. Like, mandates were

kind of ostensibly what was behind the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa and around the country earlier this year.

And then now, yeah, I mean, what do you even call them? What are they protesting? The mandates are gone.

People are wearing masks, but you're not legally required to wear masks anymore, except I think on the subway and maybe like you know if you go to a hospital you have to wear one but there really aren't many settings where anybody's going to force you to wear a mask I think they're protesting having to see the masks they're protesting the ethos of people wearing masks well I you know I do think one possible explanation for this, and this came to mind

as well for me a few weeks ago, and I was watching for the cops moved in and evicted them from

downtown Ottawa. You know, I spent this weekend or I was just glued to all these like right-wing

streams where they were like, you know, in the, in the protest as the cops were moving in.

And what was so clear, and I think I talked about this on a

Patreon episode a while ago, but it was so clear about this is like one of the needs this is,

you know, fulfilling for these people, quite apart from any of the, you know, political demands

they ostensibly have, is just like community. Like this march has been going by my apartment

or some version of it for like the better part of

two years now, right? And you know, it's gotten bigger, it's gotten smaller, it got bigger again.

The size of it has actually kind of defied expectations. Like sometimes when there's been a

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