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322. The Axis of Authoritarians

Battleground

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🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Battleground: Ukraine, hosts Patrick Bishop and Saul David dissect the recent military parade in Beijing, where the leaders of China, Russia, and North Korea appeared together. They discuss the strategic significance of this meeting, which took place in a historical venue and was a clear display of strength against the West. They also ask what the reality of China's "peaceful development" rhetoric is and also examine President Donald Trump's shifting and seemingly contradictory comments on the emerging alliance and his administration's recent approval of an arms package for Ukraine. If you have any thoughts or questions, you can send them to - [email protected] Producer: James Hodgson X (Twitter): @PodBattleground Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Battleground podcast with me Patrick Bishop and Saul David.

0:18.1

This week, as the leaders of Russia, China and North Korea attended a military

0:22.8

parade in Beijing and a show of strength to the West, a ceasefire in Ukraine seems as far away

0:29.2

as ever. The meeting was a typically bombastic affair with President Xi of China, declaring that

0:35.5

rejuvenation of the Chinese nation was unstoppable.

0:39.7

And the choice of venue was also a snub to the west, atop the rostrum of Tiananamin Square,

0:45.6

where in 1989 pro-democracy protesters were massacred in their hundreds.

0:51.4

The meeting itself was to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the end of the Second World

0:55.3

War when US, British, Chinese and Russian representatives signed the Japanese surrender document

1:00.6

on board the USS Missouri. It was remarkably the first time that Xi, Putin of Russia,

1:06.3

and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un have appeared in public together. It was a pretty remarkable display,

1:12.6

wasn't it? So what did you make of it? Yeah, I mean, I found it pretty unedifying, to be honest,

1:16.9

Patrick. I mean, who did we have actually in this group? I mean, three men who allow no opposition

1:23.7

to their rule, all authoritarian rulers in the case of Putin, a man, responsible for

1:29.5

numerous war crimes, as we've mentioned many times before. And their attempt to portray a united

1:34.3

front of strong men leaders determined to overcome U.S. hegemony was clear to all, wasn't it?

1:41.4

She didn't mention America by name, but his implication was clear when he said,

1:45.3

today humanity is again faced with a choice of peace or war, dialogue or confrontation, and win-win

1:52.2

outcomes or zero-sum games. The Chinese people will stand firmly on the right side of history and on

1:58.7

the side of human progress, adhere to the path of peaceful

2:02.0

development, and join hands with the rest of the world. Well, in truth, China has now intention

2:07.1

of adhering to the path of peaceful development, as she put it, does it, Patrick? First of all,

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