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Brave Writer

322. Parenting a Spicy One with Mary Van Geffen

Brave Writer

Julie Bogart and Melissa Wiley

Books, Education, Arts, Kids & Family, Education For Kids

4.8927 Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

What if your child’s hardest behaviors aren’t a problem to fix, but an invitation to grow? In this episode, we sit down with Mary Van Geffen, author of Parenting a Spicy One, to explore what it really means to raise a strong-willed, sensitive, or explosive child. We talk about nervous systems, repair after blow-ups, and why slowing down is often the most effective parenting move. You’ll hear practical strategies, deeply humane insights, and a reframing of “difficult” kids that just might change everything. Join us, and let’s rethink what supportive parenting can look like.

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Transcript

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0:39.3

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0:48.3

Well, look who's here. It's Mary Van Geffen.

0:53.3

I know so many of you follow her amazing collection of reels online. How the heck are you, Mary? I'm so good. I'm so glad to be with a couple old ladies like myself mentoring the youngsters. This is going to be fun. It's going to be great fun. And I just want to set the scene for everybody listening. Mary is maybe one of the more vibrant women on social media. She always has amazing earrings. Right now, I'm staring at these incredible glasses and a cheetah print top and blue paintings on the wall. Like, she brings liveliness and color everywhere she goes. So today

1:29.8

is going to be great fun. Mary, you have a brand new book out. Parenting a spicy one. How does that feel?

1:36.4

How does it feel to be an author? Oh, it's so cool. It's, it does it. You know what? I'll be honest,

1:41.8

it didn't feel real until I got an email that Mel Robinson had reviewed it and loved it and written a blurb. And then you wrote a blurb. And it was like, I'm official. And seeing other people react to it, makes it feel real. Because it's been something I've been living and breathing for almost 20 years. Wow. It's

2:01.9

really exciting to arrive at this point, although exhausting too, I think. How's it going like in this

2:07.4

launch moment for you? When does it officially come out? It comes out on February 10th and it still

2:16.3

it won't feel real until I have people I don't know sending me messages and saying,

2:22.8

oh my gosh, I tried the two by two method or I did the do-over or I tried your calming techniques.

2:28.5

Like as a true spicy one, I want to have impact on people.

2:32.4

That's a way of me feeling power is to know that I,

2:35.8

something I did changed the DNA of somebody else. And so that's when I'm still hyped up and

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