321: The Epstein Conspiracy with Judd Legum

Politics War Room with James Carville & Al Hunt

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🗓️ 31 July 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

James and Al emphasize the need to wield the terrible effects of Trump’s ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ against Republicans going forward, as well as the benefits of focusing on the economic peril of everyday Americans going into the midterms. Then, they welcome thought-leader Judd Legum to look at the continuing appeal of MAGA, Trump’s connection to Epstein, his grifts, and if he’ll be held to account. They also break down the massive grifts that the administration is running on the country and its followers and explore the role that journalists play in holding them to account.

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to politics war room with James Carvel and I'm Al Hunt.
0:16.4	This week our guest is the founder and former editor of the progressive website,
0:22.1	Think Progress, and author of the political newsletter, Popular Information, Judd Legum.
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1:10.8	Hey, James, you know, right now, it looks like Trump is riding high. I'm across the pond in London and the local newspapers and the extent they talk about the American situation and say Trump is winning everything. And on the surface he is, he got a tariff deal with the EU and with
1:28.9	England. He seems to be forcing others to bow to his wishes on tariffs. He got his big,
1:34.3	beautiful bill through. The economy for the second quarter was better than the first quarter.
1:39.0	He got that judge, Emil Bove, confirmed by a one- one vote margin in the Senate.
1:45.6	So it looks like Trump is really, really right now.
1:47.5	I think it's pretty much a Prague Spring.
1:50.0	Number one, you don't find any Republicans this summer back home talking about the big
1:56.1	beautiful bill.
1:57.1	Mike Johnson sent him home so they wouldn't have to talk about Epstein.
2:01.8	They don't want to talk about the big beautiful bill anyway, or they certainly don't want to talk about Medicaid.
2:06.1	And I think those economic numbers are a bit of an illusion. I think that businesses we've been
2:13.5	told by people that we respect are buying inventories and they are stocking up in inventories
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