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This is Upgrade episode 321. Today's show is brought to you by Timestry, Bombus, and Mailroute.

My name is Mike Hurley and I am joined by Mr. Jason Snell.

Hi Jason Snell.

Hi, Mike Hurley. Big episode today. We just basically finished watching

the Apple October event, the iPhone and Home Pod mini event. It ended about an hour ago. And we are going to do our level best to break it down

for you. But we will start this episode the same way that we start every episode of

upgrade where Jason we ask you a question and this one has come

from me Jason I would like to know having watched the Apple event today would you

stand on the roof of Apple Park? I mean are you offering? Yeah if I could make that

happen for you. You made that? I mean I would be first off I've never been anywhere

at Apple Park other than the Steve Jobs Theater so I'd love to be at Apple Park other than the Steve Jobs Theater.

So I'd love to be at Apple Park in general.

And what I stand on the roof?

Sure.

It looks beautiful up there.

Amid the solar panels, I could stand there and I could explain why that thing you want is bad for the

environment and the earth and you should feel bad for wanting it.

I cannot believe that Lisa Jackson stood what it looked like I mean I'm sure it

wasn't but it looked like she was completely unsupported or secured you know how big Apple Park is? She was nowhere near

falling anywhere. It's like slanted. If there was a big gust of wind or one of those

drones came over? No, it's fine. It's perfectly safe. You just grab, you just grab

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