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I'm Levy Dalton.

I'm Erin Scala and here's our show today. Oh, Benjamin Lewin on the show today. Hello sir, how are you?

I'm fine, very good to be here.

Nice to have you here. Thank you. Where did you grow up?

I grew up in London. Oh what was that like? London in the

50s and 60s. It was a time when there was a real culture of meritocracy up to a

point so a bright kid without a money background for

example, go to a grammar school, get a good education and go to a top university. On the other hand if you were Jewish there was always a sense that you didn't quite fit into society.

A little bit of sense of being not exactly on the outside of society but not being fully integrated with it.

So I would say in terms of what it's like in England today, swings and roundabouts.

Today you have a much more open society.

Background doesn't matter.

You can be Jewish, you can be Muslim, you know, it doesn't make that much

difference in a polygloc society.

On the other hand, there isn't quite the same sense of meritocracy, and the route to the

top through the grammar schools has been not exactly closed off but made more

difficult. So I would say on balance I feel I grew up at a time in England which was a good

time to be in England because you got a good education. What the educational system

taught you was how to think, how to be logical, how to function. Yes, there was a certain amount

of wrote learning, which you wouldn't do today but on the other hand behind it was always

the sense of this is what you are learning is how you solve a question not the answer but how

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