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Journey Through Time

32. From Lincoln to Obama: A History of the Special Relationship (Ep 1)

Journey Through Time

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4.3595 Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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David has just come off stage with Barack Obama - what does the 44th President think about the ‘Special Relationship’ between the UK and the US? What is the history of this relationship? What about during the American Civil war when the two countries very nearly went to war? Join David Olusoga and Sarah Churchwell as they explore a darker chapter in the relationship between Britain and America.  Email: journeythroughtime@goalhanger.com  X: @ThroughTimePod Blue Sky: @ThroughTimePod Instagram: @ThroughTimePod Social Producer: Emma Jackson Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell Producer: Callum Hill Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:17.6

Welcome to Journey Through Time.

1:18.5

I'm Sarah Churchill.

1:19.9

And I'm David O'Shobe.

1:24.4

So, David, this is an unusual way for us to open the podcast.

1:29.1

We are backstage at the O2, as those who are seeing us on video can see. Words I thought I would never actually say backstage at the O2, but here we are.

1:34.4

And I think you should have the honor of explaining why we were backstage at the O2,

1:38.3

because it's all down to you. We're here because I've just come off stage interviewing President

1:43.6

Barack Obama. I mean, yeah off stage interviewing President Barack Obama.

1:44.8

I mean, that is, yeah, amazing.

1:47.7

It's as crazy as I said.

1:49.6

It was crazy.

1:51.6

It was absolutely electrifying.

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