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Soberful

319: Codependency with Kate Grey

Soberful

Veronica Valli & Chip Somers

Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement

4.8611 Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Veronica speaks with family therapist Kate Gray about the complexities of codependency, emotional boundaries, and the impact of family of origin on adult relationships. They explore the journey of healing from codependency, the importance of recognizing unwanted behaviors, and the role of parenting in emotional development. Kate shares her BEND method for teaching boundaries and emphasizes the significance of grieving past experiences to foster emotional growth. The conversation highlights how romantic relationships can trigger unresolved issues and the necessity of personal growth in relationships. To learn more, visit the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠show notes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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0:00.0

I dreamt that you were twisting through seven suns of gold and the gypsy was insisting

0:10.2

that story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.

0:22.4

I could touch but never hold.

0:27.6

Hey there.

0:28.7

Welcome back to the Sober Fall podcast.

0:31.7

And I am joined today by Kate Gray.

0:34.2

Welcome, Kate.

0:35.4

Thank you.

0:36.3

Thank you for having me.

0:41.3

Now, I found Kate on TikTok, and she is a marriage and family therapist. And every so often I'll come across someone on

0:48.3

social media and I'll hear something and go, oh, this person really gets it. I really, really love what they're saying. And you

0:56.7

explain things so well. And I've seen from the comments and stuff you get, people are like,

1:02.4

like their minds are, they're like, oh my God, oh my God, yes. And what about this? And what about

1:07.6

that? And you just, you just explain it stuff really, really well

1:12.6

about codependency and the impact that can have on relationships. Are you enjoying doing that?

1:21.3

Thank you. Yeah. First of all, thank you. I love doing it. And it's always interestingly

1:26.9

such a surprise to hear that feedback because

1:29.9

when I'm posting content and even in my head sometimes, I just kind of speak and let it come.

1:37.4

And it's just really fun that it lands. So I really do enjoy it a lot. Yeah. And I see people are really hungry for that information.

1:46.5

Now, the reason I wanted to get you on is because, so the Soberful podcast is for people

1:52.8

who want to stop drinking, anything to do with addiction really in mental health.

1:57.7

And codependency is such a big part of that. In fact, I was just commenting

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