318. Nature as Medicine with Willow Defabaugh
Tarot for the Wild Soul with Lindsay Mack
Lindsay Mack, founder of Tarot for the Wild Soul
4.9 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 21 June 2026
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
Nature is medicine, and is a deep and wise teacher for each of us, no matter who and where we are, or what stage of our journey we are in. Through our perpetual transitions, metamorphoses, awakenings, and healing processes, nature is there as a steady guide and witness for us.
Our guest on the podcast today, the incredible Willow Defebaugh of Atmos, has dedicated their life to exploring and unpacking these themes, which we dive into in our beautiful conversation today. Together, Willow dives into how they came to this path in life, how nature has been a teacher and guide for her, how grief is the key to being the stewards and caretakers that the Earth is longing for us to be, and so, so much more.
About Willow
Willow Defebaugh is the co-founder and editor-in-chief of Atmos, an award-winning multimedia platform that seeks to re-enchant people with the Earth. She is the author of The Overview, a deep ecology newsletter and book, and host of The Nature Of podcast, named best of 2025 by Apple. She is a lifelong student of nature and graduated with a degree in creative writing from the University of Michigan. Her work has been featured in Vogue, Harper's Bazaar, Teen Vogue, V Magazine, Interview, i-D, BBC, The Guardian, Them, New York Magazine, and more. She lives in Brooklyn on unceded Lenape territory with her dog Max Moon.
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Website: https://atmos.earth/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/willowonearth/
Podcast: https://lnk.to/4LmhWH
Book: http://mirrorsintheearth.com
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Honoring and acknowledging that this podcast episode was recorded on the unceded land of The Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde, currently called Portland, OR, with the deepest respect to the Kalapuya Tribe, Cowlitz Tribe, and Atfalati Tribe.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Tarot for the Wild Soul, a podcast that explores the tarot through an inclusive, soul-centered, trauma-informed perspective for growth, healing, and evolution. |
| 0:17.6 | I'm your host, Lindsay Mack. |
| 0:19.9 | Hello, hello, hello, everyone. Welcome back to the podcast. |
| 0:23.9 | It's so lovely to have you. It's so lovely to be here. Happy solstice. Bowing to the light, |
| 0:33.0 | welcoming the night. I am so grateful to be here with you. I got married on the summer solstice. So this is my |
| 0:42.8 | wedding anniversary. It is also Papa's Day. So wishing a happy Papa's Day, Parents Day, to all |
| 0:50.2 | of the fathers and papas and parents and humans in this world raising children and |
| 0:57.8 | animals and themselves, just bowing to you. And it's the first day of cancer season, |
| 1:07.0 | real triple header. And for those of you who are having a very tender day because it's |
| 1:13.1 | Father's Day or thereabouts my love and care is with you too. Yeah, oh my God, do I love the |
| 1:21.5 | solstice? I love it because I think there are just so many points of training, points of preparation in this life, |
| 1:33.2 | and especially around the wheel of the year, around any kind of magical belief system |
| 1:38.1 | or practice or connection to nature and the divine, that helps us to befriend death, the inevitability of death and dying, |
| 1:50.1 | the inevitability of personal rebirth, of awakening, of changing oneself, of metamorphosis, |
| 1:58.0 | which is all all perfectly on point for today's conversation with our |
| 2:03.7 | luminous guest. And I will get to that in a moment. But I love the fact that here in the |
| 2:10.1 | Northern Hemisphere, we are like blowing our arms and hearts open, embracing this long, long, long day and this very short night |
| 2:24.9 | and saying yes to the first day of summer, saying yes to all of the delicious fruits that |
| 2:31.2 | summer brings literally and figuratively, knowing, knowing that the nights |
| 2:39.8 | are only going to get longer from here and the days are only going to get shorter from |
| 2:43.7 | here. |
| 2:44.0 | And it's a metaphor. |
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