You have done all the research, you have gone down a thousand Italy trip planning rabbit

holes, you've even tried asking an AI chatbot to build you an itinerary or travel

plan and somehow, at the end of it all, you are less sure of your trip than when you started.

My guest today knows exactly why that happens and she's been on both sides of it.

Ciao, all right, and benvenuti to Untold Italy.

This is episode number 318 of our podcast.

I'm Katie, your host and before I kick off today's episode, I have a message for all of

our listeners and followers.

Untold Italy is a podcast for travellers who love Italy and

getting lost in the hidden corners of every region for the people that have been there five or 50

times. It is a podcast for first time travellers to Italy who perhaps have dreamed about

visiting Italy for the longest time and haven't just got there yet. It is a podcast for every

type of traveller. We do not judge here. Everyone has a different travel style and is at a different

stage of their travelling journey. I also know somebody listening are no longer able to travel for a

variety of reasons and use our episodes as a virtual escape.

And I am so glad we can bring Italy to you too. We have over 300 episodes, so there are infinite

ways to get your Italy travel fix. I'd like to say thank you, Gratia, for all of your ongoing

support and kind messages over the years.

Special thanks go out to the people who support our work by purchasing our app,

writing reviews and sending lovely messages.

Creating over 300 episodes is a huge task, mentally, time-wise and financially,

and it does not just involve sitting down for a chat every week, although that is my favourite part.

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