Tell me something, tell me something about cooking. Tell me what you've got like an oven that my wife I think is gonna at some point kidnap you and have you come out here and install some kind of high capacity outdoor grill type thing.

Yeah, you know, I kind of I mean, I've always loved cooking to some degree and and loved food. But only during the pandemic that I really have time to start drill down and start working on a handful of things that I had always wanted to actually learn to do do, you know, not like wing it once in a while.

And one of those was pizza and so I got one of these Oony pizza ovens, which is the one I have is a gas they make the combo would gas ones too, but the one I have is a gas pizza oven and it, you know, it's great.

It's actually extremely usable has a really nice kind of wide opening you can slide things in and out of it takes a little bit of practice, you know, my first pizzas were burnt on one side several of them calzone themselves unintentionally, you know, you go through the whole learning process.

But you really need like a continuous set of time to experiment with that stuff because pizza is very much like software like you know, you go through 1.0 of your dough and then you go like, no, no, that's not right right in your, you know, few percent here, few percent there, you know, another 1.2 of your dough.

And you just, but you have to have contiguous time and I was stuck in the house and like I would get done with work and it's like, hey, we're not going anywhere doing anything so I'm going to fire up the oven and play a little bit, you know, and so I learned to do learn to do that better.

And along with that is bread, you know, so they kind of go in the same in the same oven.

You know what I do, I do some flatbreads in the oven, but the uni gets to like 800, 900 degrees, which is not bread temperature. You need about 500 degrees for most breads.

And you need that temperature on the uni because the stone needs to get ultra hot to bake the bottom of your crust so that you don't have a burnt top and raw dough.

But with bread, you need roughly 500 degrees and an enclosed environment with a lot of steam to promote that spring.

So that bit of the bread that you love, that's the fluffy inside with a lot of holes and aeration and all of that, that spring that loft to your bread, that comes from steam.

And most European ovens have steam built in, or not most I should say, but let's say it's much more common and you'll have steam built in so you'll be able to fire up your oven, say, hey, oven, I'm making bread, could you put a little steam in here for me?

And it keeps it nice and humid in there and you get a nice spring on your bread.

But in America, most of our ovens do not have steam at all. So you have to create an artificial steam environment by enclosing either you pour boiling water in a skillet down below in your oven and trap it in there.

Or you use a Dutch oven, which is, you know, a pot with a lid to try and trap steam, the steam coming naturally from your the water in your bread to cook it and to spring it.

And so like they're really two different operations, but all of the base preparations, all flour yeast and water.

So you start learning a lot about how yeast and flour and water interact with one another and salt to some degree and getting an idea of how all that stuff works and they feed into one another.

So if you're, if you start doing pizza, it's a very short hop to make in bread and vice versa, you know, because pizza is bread, it just happens to have some garnishes.

So in this Ooni oven is something you can, you cook with it right on your kitchen countertop or you have to cook this outside.

No, Ooni's an outdoor oven. I mean, you, if you wanted to do it inside, I'd say you're probably risking death. I mean, it's a, that's well that it makes sense. So it's eight or 900 degrees. I mean, that makes sense.

It is in its propane. So you don't, you know, you really don't want to do that. Now they make a wood wood burning version of it and one that does both as well.

And there are other ones out there. There are other brands. The rock box is a very popular one made by a company called Gosney.

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