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🗓️ 5 May 2025
⏱️ 39 minutes
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When someone you love is in a mental health crisis, what do you say? How do you show up without panicking or trying to fix it all?
In this episode, Corrine and Neil talk through one of the most tender and difficult questions they’ve ever received: “What do you say to someone who says they’re done?”—a phrase that often signals deep emotional pain or even suicidal thoughts.
Drawing from principles of recovery, their own personal experiences, and their faith in Jesus Christ, Corrine and Neil explore how to truly support someone who feels like they’ve reached their breaking point. They offer practical tools—like the ACT method (Ask, Care, Tell)—and compassionate reminders that presence matters far more than having the perfect words.
They discuss what emotional distress really feels like, how to sit with someone in that darkness without trying to rush them out of it, and why sometimes, saying “just breathe” is more powerful than trying to fix anything. You’ll also hear a thoughtful conversation on the difference between helping someone and trying to control the outcome, and how to lean into faith when everything feels out of your hands.
Whether you’re trying to support someone dealing with suicidal ideation or you’re seeking peace in your own struggle, this conversation is a gentle and faith-filled place to begin.
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0:00.0 | We've never done a podcast like this before, have we? |
0:10.0 | No, we haven't. |
0:12.0 | This is a remote podcast between the two of us. |
0:16.0 | Yes, I'm in Las Vegas. Neil is in California. |
0:20.0 | And I promised a friend of mine that we would do an episode on a question that she asked me in a text message last week. |
0:30.6 | So she sent me this text and said, she works in like a mental health care hospital. |
0:38.5 | Is that the right? |
0:39.3 | Like, I'm not sure if that's technically the right term. |
0:42.0 | But yeah, she works with people who are struggling with suicidal ideation or who have attempted suicide. |
0:48.4 | And so she said that she had two interactions with patients that week where both of them said in so many words to her, like, I quit, I'm done. I don't want to do this anymore. And she said, what do you say to someone who says that? Because she said her first instinct was to say it's going to be okay, but then she knew that that really wasn't the right |
1:11.2 | thing to say. So I passed this along to Neil. So Neil, I would love for you to just start with your |
1:19.4 | initial thoughts and maybe some of the things that you shared with her in the voice text that we sent |
1:24.4 | back. Yeah, sure. No, I think the first thing that came to mind for me |
1:28.5 | was just being in the recovery process or in around the rooms of recovery, a lot of times people |
1:35.5 | come in just totally wrecked and are just in really tough spots with family issues or just lost |
1:42.9 | their family or just lost their job, you know, |
1:45.6 | due to the addiction or legal ramifications, um, or just feel completely defeated, you know. |
1:54.0 | Yeah. And I think that I've, I've felt that before, just complete, you know, defeat or |
1:58.6 | hopelessness in different times due to just whatever challenge. |
2:04.1 | And so for that concept and that understanding of it, you know, I do have a grasp of kind of what that |
2:15.0 | somewhat feels like, you know, the level that that your, you know, |
2:20.2 | friend was talking about is a whole other level. But I think principally, there are things |
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