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317 - Don't Talk About Politics - Sarah Stein Lubrano

You Are Not So Smart

You Are Not So Smart

Science, Psychology, Brain, Business, Mental Health, Culture, Neuroscience, Mind, Health

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Sarah Stein Lubrano tells us about her new book, Don't Talk About Politics, which urges us not to lose hope or become frozen in frustration when it comes to polarization and faulty discourse because the good news is that we don't just know, scientifically, why the marketplace of ideas is currently failing us, we know how, scientifically, we can do better.

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Episode Episode

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Episode 317

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Episode 317 We talk as though we have ideas. But ideas have us. Like a really good idea completely structures you. It makes

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you who you are. So even if we weren't biased by class and race and gender and all the normal

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things we talk about in politics, we are shaped so much by our ideas that the idea that we

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are going to like select from up high which idea to have is ridiculous.

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That was the voice of Dr. Sarah Stein-Lebrano, a political scientist who studies how cognitive dissonance affects all sorts of political behavior. She

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studies all sorts of other things too, but she has appeared on this program before to help

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us understand cognitive dissonance. And since then, she has written the book titled,

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Don't Talk About Politics. It's, it's, there's, there's, you do talk about politics, but not the way we

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normally do. It's, it's a whole thing. But yes, the book is titled, don't talk about politics.

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And I like to think it means don't only just talk about politics. You need to actually do things.

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And those things should be based off of science. And we're going to talk all about that in a minute.

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The book is about how to discuss politics without necessarily talking about politics and about how to change political views and affect change in politics and laws and institutions and norms and so on through strategies other than

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just debate and arguing and so on. And I would consider this book in conversation with my book,

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