panel it's a two inches of insulation an hour 12 with a half inch

simply and it was just a blast to put it on i also beg up the foundation down too deep with a

shuddle you don't like this guy, right?

Welcome to the fine home building pro talk podcast, a regular discussion with building industry professionals.

This is senior editor Patrick McComb.

Today I'm joined by Vermont Cabinet Maker, Dennis Beset.

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Uncle Dennis, it is a pleasure to have you on the podcast, buddy.

Well, thank you for having me.

We should tell folks that you're not exactly my uncle.

You're my wife's uncle.

And we spent a lot of time together.

I think you were probably the first family member I've had on the show.

Well, I know you are.

And I'm grateful that you agreed to do this.

Thank you very much. Well, we'll see how this goes. You may not want to run it.

So I can tell you that I see your cabinets in the background behind you. You're obviously a cabinet

maker, as I said earlier. Can you tell me how you became a

cabinet maker? Well, it's kind of a long story. I didn't start out in woodworking. I started

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