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🗓️ 23 June 2025
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0:00.0 | but the existential crisis that I have as somebody who's in the audience is that often I'll come to church |
0:07.2 | and most of the songs are like how I feel and I'm singing about how I feel. But then I, because I'm such a |
0:14.4 | thinker, I'm like, but I know everybody here doesn't feel this way and I don't actually particularly |
0:18.1 | feel this way in this very moment. So now I feel like I'm lying. And then I'm just like doing all of this. And so I think that is the problem with |
0:26.3 | me-centered worship songs. The music we've seen sort of weasels its way in there because it's like |
0:31.9 | moving you emotionally. Man, that's such a great song. Is it really though? Like what's it really |
0:37.4 | saying? |
0:38.0 | And I think most people aren't really looking at that. |
0:40.6 | And then you're just showing up at church and singing songs about yourself, which is weird. |
0:45.6 | Yeah. |
0:46.1 | And I think that's actually a move of the devil, to be honest. |
0:49.6 | Mm-hmm. Well, hey, everybody. I am so glad you've tuned in today for this conversation that is all about worship. |
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