Let's just get right into it. I feel like you're going to give me an earful about Skype.

I don't know. I just feel like who uses Skype anymore?

You know, I had a friend just text me yesterday and he had like a link to somebody who's,

it's just like a random tweet that was just like, you know, it's kind of hard to believe that Skype

dropped the ball on video conferencing because they had such a huge lead and I think that's so true.

Because when Skype was new, the fidelity and latency, low latency were just game-changing.

Honestly, I mean, I don't know how in the early days of me podcasting because I have been

podcasting relatively long for the industry like my old talk show with Dan Benjamin. I think we

were doing that in 2007. You basically invented podcasting. I would never claim that because then

Dave Winer will get angry at me and I do not want Dave Winer of all people angry at me. He

invented podcasting. Let's just say that. But Skype was really made it possible in a way for

remote, you know, and I don't know anybody who lives near me who I want to podcast with. So it had

to be remote. 100%. So here's a couple of fun facts about Skype. One, I got my start in tech working

at a PR agency on the Skype client. So I was very interested in Skype and I was very interested in

the hardware that Skype was like sort of partnering with. And so my job was to pitch tech journalists

on covering these like new mics and webcams. And I realized when I was doing that that this is not

a good job for me. I would rather be reviewing these types of things. That's fun fact. Number one.

Number two is I wrote a column this week about how we actually should be cutting back on video calls

like that non-stop video calling has to stop. And it was about audio calls, right? Like that makes

sense. Like we should just make audio calls before the, you know, I call the pre-pandemic era. We just

made calls. We would just be like, you do have a second. Can I give you a call? We didn't say like,

can I give you a video call? Anyway, I got in touch with Skype or I reached out to Microsoft to

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