Have you ever been close to tragedy?

You've been close to folks in life.

Have you ever felt the pain too powerful?

So heavy you could laugh.

No, no.

I never had to knock on wood.

But I know someone who has, which makes me wonder if I could.

It makes me wonder if I'd never had to knock on wood.

And I'm not a solid, and I'm not a solid yet.

Because I'm sure it isn't good.

Let's see if I should deny that I can.

Welcome to Talking Giants presented by Draftings and New

Host Bobby Skinner here with my co-host Justin Peneck.

And it's the last episode of Talking Giants

before training camp.

The last episode, even though some guys are reporting,

we talked with the Giants guys of New York Giants

for about 30 minutes.

So we'll put that at the end.

Basically, we're just getting excited for training camp.

It's like a hype up interview for training camp.

But we have some relevant news that we have to talk to you

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