Welcome to Michael and Us. I'm Will Sloan, here as always with.

Luke Savage, welcome back, everyone.

There's a particular genre of old guy entertainer who like all they have to do now,

their career has just been reduced to accepting lifetime achievement awards, going to

events where a good reception is lined up for them as if on a t-ball stand and all they have to do

is just swing the bat a little bit and hit it

out of the park. But all they can do is say problematic things anymore. And this is an instinct that

is constantly working at cross-purposes with an entire industry that's just been set up to

canonize them. Will, by the way, is talking about us as aging podcasters.

The guy who used to be the absolute king of it was Jerry Lewis.

He used to go to these, like, comedy events or like, an evening with the master.

And he'd be like, I don't think women are funny.

And, you know, it was just to destroy his legacy in a night.

And there'd be people on the panels, like younger communities,

they'd be like, oh, but surely you think Lucille Ball was funny. And he'd like, ah, nah, I don't think so.

Never did care for it. Yeah. Key's passed on, of course. And so now the mantle's been taken up by

John Cleese. I was reading an article

this morning in The Hollywood Reporter called John Cleese had thoughts on slavery at South by Southwest,

and it was super cringy. Oh, my God. Pretty highly ranked among inauspicious headlines, that one.

So because of the pandemic, the South by Southwest Festival, this enormous multimedia

festival, it's been away for three years. And they decided to, they decided to inaugurate its return

by inviting John Cleese. I mean, it's, it's incredible. They have any number of more cutting

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