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Politics War Room with James Carville & Al Hunt

313: Z-Big with Ed Luce

Politics War Room with James Carville & Al Hunt

Politicon

News Commentary, Politics, Government, News, National

4.73.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

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James and Al dissect the political forces engaged in the battle for L.A. being waged between California and the Trump Administration, exposing the authoritarian tactics deployed against MAGA’s political opposition.  Then, they welcome Financial Times Editor Ed Luce to discuss the legacy of Zbigniew Brzezinski by comparing his diplomatic approach to that of Henry Kissinger, and reviewing the aftermath of the West’s Cold War policies.  While exploring their relationship, they weigh the lessons that can be learned from their historic interactions and how they might influence the future of global security and international relations.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Politics World Room with James Carvel and I'm Al Hyde.

0:14.3

This week our guest is the U.S. national editor and columnist at the Financial Times,

0:19.4

Ed Luce, author of a great new biography of Subignia

0:23.3

Brzynski.

0:24.4

Remember, we love taking your questions, so write to PoliticsWRourdom at gmail.com or send

0:30.0

a tweet to at Politicon for next week's show.

0:33.1

Now, we're going to get to as many as we can, but don't forget to tell us where you're

0:36.6

from.

0:37.4

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0:45.6

So tell your friends about us and remind them to subscribe on Apple, podcast, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast.

0:53.2

And please check out the links to our sponsors,

0:56.1

Zbiotics and Faye Nutrition in our show notes. We thank you for supporting them because it really

1:01.8

helps make this podcast happen. James, the big story, of course, is Los Angeles.

1:08.4

The largely peaceful demonstrations against ICE, which is

1:11.9

intimidated neighborhoods, restaurants, even schools, Trump used it as a pretext to federalize

1:17.7

the National Guard, send in the Marines. He only has one purpose here. He wants to inflame

1:23.9

tensions, violence, and his fondest dreams, a race riot. You know, they're rushing to

1:29.6

meet Stephen Miller's stupid quota of 3,000 deportations a day. Get them anywhere and detract

1:37.4

attention from the unpopular bill back in Washington that cuts Medicaid spending to help extend tax cuts for the rich.

1:46.2

James, my mind dashes back to the histories I've read of the 1933 Reichstag fire,

1:53.1

which Hitler used as a pretext for the Enabling Act, suspending civil liberties and ushering

1:58.6

in the end of democracy for Nazi Germany.

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