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🗓️ 4 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | If you want access to bonus episodes reading lists for every series of Empire, a chat community, |
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| 1:36.1 | Music and restrictions may apply. Hello and welcome. |
| 1:38.7 | There is no Anita, I'm afraid, in this episode, |
| 1:41.4 | as she is still in A&E. |
| 1:43.4 | So all your prayers, her back is giving her terrible pain. |
| 1:46.5 | But with me is my great friend Andrew Lysett, the brilliant biographer of Roger Kipling, |
| 1:51.9 | who took us in the last episode so brilliantly through Kipling's childhood and his early writings. |
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