#312 — The Trouble with AI

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

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🗓️ 7 March 2023

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Sam Harris speaks with Stuart Russell and Gary Marcus about recent developments in artificial intelligence and the long-term risks of producing artificial general intelligence (AGI). They discuss the limitations of Deep Learning, the surprising power of narrow AI, ChatGPT, a possible misinformation apocalypse, the problem of instantiating human values, the business model of the Internet, the meta-verse, digital provenance, using AI to control AI, the control problem, emergent goals, locking down core values, programming uncertainty about human values into AGI, the prospects of slowing or stopping AI progress, and other topics.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast.
0:09.1	This is Sam Harris.
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0:40.4	Okay, before I jump in today, I want to take a moment to address some confusion that keeps
0:52.8	coming up.
0:53.8	I was on another podcast yesterday and spoke about this briefly, but I thought I might
1:01.6	be a little more systematic here.
1:04.1	It relates to the paradoxical way that we value expertise in really all fields and scientific
1:13.2	authority in particular.
1:14.9	It seems to me there's just a lot of confusion about how this goes.
1:21.0	This and authority are unstable and intrinsically so because the truth of any claim doesn't depend
1:30.1	on the credentials of the person making that claim.
1:34.0	So a Nobel laureate can be wrong and a total ignoramus can be right, even if only by accident.
1:41.5	So the truth really is orthogonal to the reputational differences among people.
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