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stories of horrifying murders of young black men were people just seem to be accepted. Hello and welcome to another episode of On the Edge with Andrew Gold.

Today's guest is Luke Gitos, who is a lawyer, writer and director of Freedom Law UK, which you should look up it's in the

description and they help people who can't afford it to be able to study as a lawyer

to get legal studies and things and I think that's really really helpful makes for

more diverse law space, which I think is something that we need.

The people who are enforcing laws, making laws, defending people, prosecuting people need to be from all walks of life. So it's a brilliant thing

that he's doing really Luke and he's a great speaker and he's controversial as

well because he doesn't just toe the line he's able to see things in a different way I would say and is very very

interesting so we talk about rape culture and the fact you know because I was getting told a lot that 3% only 3% of of rapes

End in a conviction and he says that's utterly false. It's not true at all and he explains why that is and why that is damaging to women who are raped to believe that and you know and then we get on to just stop oil. We talk about Hugh Edwards and the age limits and things like that. We have a bit of a

disagreement about what the legal age should be for sex, because I think it should be 18 but he's saying you know we

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