Grumpy old geeks, a weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schultmeister and Jason

DeFilippo discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the internet and

who's to blame.

Welcome to Grumpy old geeks. I'm Jason DeFilippo and I'm Brian Schultmeister.

Brian, I got a little follow up here. Okay. On, on past episodes we've talked

about when people build their their houses and other people's backyards.

You get pissed off when they turn the sprinklers on it three in the morning.

That is that is my metaphor for building your online identity on somebody else's

service. Yep. Well, Patreon has been in the news.

So they've been kicking some people off. Good. Yeah. It is.

It is good, but people are upset about it and they're they're wondering,

Hey, what's going on here? This is free speech, man. Well, no, it's not.

It never has been. We've said that before.

It's not free speech. It's not the in fact, this is actually a good thing.

I'm actually very pleased with Patreon because this is a platform coming up and

saying, Hey, maybe we're not just a platform. Maybe we have some responsibility to

our users. Yes. Jacqueline Hart, Patreons head of trust and safety set her team watches

for and will investigate complaints about any content posted on Patreon.

And on other sites like YouTube and Facebook that violates what it defines as hate

speech. That includes serious attacks or even negative generalizations of people

based on their race and sexual orientation. And okay. So here we go.

If someone has breached Patreon's policy, the company contacts the offender with a

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