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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

311 | Annaka Harris on Whether Consciousness is Fundamental

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

Sean Carroll | Wondery

Society & Culture, Physics, Philosophy, Science, Ideas, Society

4.84.4K Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Questions about consciousness range from the precise and empirical -- what neurons fire when I have some particular experience -- to the deeply profound -- does consciousness emerge from matter, or does matter emerge from consciousness? While it might be straightforward to think that consciousness arises from the collective behavior of atoms in the brain, Annaka Harris and others argue that consciousness could be the fundamental stuff from which matter arises. She talks with a variety of experts in her new audio series, Lights On: How Understanding Consciousness Helps Us Understand the Universe.

Blog post with show notes and transcript: https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2025/04/14/311-annaka-harris-on-whether-consciousness-is-fundamental/

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Annaka Harris received a BFA from New York University. She is the author of Consciousness: A Brief Guide to the Fundamental Mystery of the Mind. She is a co-founder of Project Reason.

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Hello everyone and welcome to the Mindscape podcast.

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1:09.1

We're going to finally figure out this consciousness thing once and for all. No, we're not. Actually, sorry about that. That was false advertising. We're going to talk about consciousness yet again. It's not something that we're going to ever in the course of a one hour long conversation quite agree that people who have different opinions about

1:28.5

this are going to see the light.

1:30.4

But we're going to come closer and closer with every episode.

1:33.1

That's all I can actually promise.

1:35.3

You know, it wasn't that long ago.

1:36.6

We had Christoph Cook, famous neuroscientist on the show, and we talked a lot about consciousness,

1:41.5

in particular the neural correlates of consciousness

1:46.3

and integrated information theory.

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