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This will make it easier for other podcast listeners to find issues etc. For most of us, woke ideology began several years ago.

began, oh, several years ago, as mildly amusing that people would believe such things. Then, became slightly alarming, and now within the last month or so genuinely

alarming as we see woke mobs groups of students on virtually every

college campus marching in favor of well organized terrorism and often

carrying symbols of hate and anti-Semitism.

Now some have woken up. Now not woke but woken up from woken-ness when they see this end result. Others still cling to the ideology with all their lives. Why?

Welcome back to issues, etc. I'm Todd Wilkin, joining us to help understand the strategy of woke ideology.

Noel marrying, she's a fellow at the ethics and public policy center.

Author of the book Awake, not Woke, a Christian response to the cult of progressive ideology,

and a column for the Federalist titled How Wokeness puts its defenders in a chokehold

and how to help them out.

Noel, welcome back.

Great to be back.

Was the Woke Coalition a peaceful movement up until October 7th

in its subsequent support of the terrorist government of Hamas?

No, no, it was never meant to be a peaceful movement.

It was always meant to be a revolutionary movement encouraging people to internalize reductive binary than every conflict.

There's an oppressed identity group that can justify any means necessary against their oppressor.

And so I think what we're seeing with the Hamas

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