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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

310. Viral: The Origin of Covid 19 | Matt Ridley

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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🗓️ 1 December 2022

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Dr. Peterson's extensive catalog is available now on DailyWire+: https://utm.io/ueSXh Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Matt Ridley go in depth to explore the Covid 19 outbreak, scrutinizing the lack of criticism, the inherent red flags widely accepted as benign, the possible motive for a multi-government cover up, and ultimately the demise of the scientific enlightenment as it bends to a more fearsome pandemic: totalitarianism. Matt Ridley is a British writer, journalist, and public speaker. His books collectively have sold over a million copies, and have been translated into 31 languages. His books include The Red Queen, The Origins of Virtue, Genome, Nature via Nurture, Francis Crick, The Rational Optimist, The Evolution of Everything, and How Innovation Works. He is also frequently published in the Wall Street Journal, and in the Times (London), as a columnist. As a speaker, Ridley has seen over two million views for his TED talk, “When Ideas Have Sex.” Ridley focuses on the area of science for his writings, and held the role of science editor at the Economist for nine years. - Links - For Matt Ridley: Matt Ridley’s newest book, Viral, is now available in a revised and expanded edition, find it here https://www.amazon.com/Viral-Search-COVID-19-Matt-Ridley/dp/006313912X or the audio/digital version here https://a.co/d/aVdU6zV Matt Ridley’s Website https://www.mattridley.co.uk/ Twitter https://twitter.com/mattwridley?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Facebook https://www.facebook.com/authormattridley/ - Chapters - (0:00) Coming up (1:31) Intro (4:25) The origin of the Covid 19 outbreak (7:39) Adapted for humans (11:42) Immediate effectiveness (13:50) Inserted genetic information (16:29) Early concerns of engineering, the pangolin problem (20:00) Reputation management, potential cover up (25:00) The smoking gun, Project Defuse (28:24) The impossibility of ethical science in a totalitarian country (33:50) When presumptions don’t add up (37:00) Framing the pandemic as political, a distraction (45:16) 80,000 animals tested in Wuhan, 0 infected (50:30) The lack of criticism for the Chinese government (53:53) Potential darkness, spreading totalitarianism (57:03) China envy, recalling the USSR (1:01:23) Other possible motives (1:05:24) The sad evolution of scientific inquiry (1:09:30) The demise of the enlightenment (1:17:15) The antagonism between religion and science (1:22:07) Truth over consequence (1:28:01) The conflation of religion as a faith and as an institution (1:36:00) The spirit of inquiry (1:38:37) Dawkins; not seeking the answer, following the questions (1:43:20) The truth will set you free // SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL // Newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/jordanbpeterson.com/youtubesignup Donations: https://jordanbpeterson.com/donate // COURSES // Discovering Personality: https://jordanbpeterson.com/personality Self Authoring Suite: https://selfauthoring.com Understand Myself (personality test): https://understandmyself.com // BOOKS // Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life: https://jordanbpeterson.com/Beyond-Order 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos: https://jordanbpeterson.com/12-rules-for-life Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief: https://jordanbpeterson.com/maps-of-meaning // LINKS // Website: https://jordanbpeterson.com Events: https://jordanbpeterson.com/events Blog: https://jordanbpeterson.com/blog Podcast: https://jordanbpeterson.com/podcast // SOCIAL // Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson Instagram: https://instagram.com/jordan.b.peterson Facebook: https://facebook.com/drjordanpeterson Telegram: https://t.me/DrJordanPeterson All socials: https://linktr.ee/drjordanbpeterson #JordanPeterson #JordanBPeterson #DrJordanPeterson #DrJordanBPeterson #DailyWirePlus

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Hello everyone, I'm happy today to be speaking with Dr. Matt Ridley, one of the world's most well-known and lucidly

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minded rationalists I've spoken with Matt before on my podcast and we're going to talk today about

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among other things about the origin of the COVID virus so that should be entertaining. Matt Ridley is a

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British writer, journalist and public speaker. He has a BA and D-Fill degree from Oxford University.

0:44.7

Matt also worked for the economist for nine years as science editor. He worked as a Washington

0:50.9

correspondent and American editor as well before becoming a self-employed writer and businessman.

0:56.6

Matt writes a weekly column in The Times of London and also writes regularly for the Wall Street

1:02.0

Journal. As Vycount Ridley, he was elected to the House of Lords in February 2013 and served on

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the Science and Technology Select Committee from 2014 to 2017. He won the Hayek Prize in 2011,

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the Julian Simon Award in 2012 and the Free Enterprise Award from the Institute of Economic Affairs

1:26.5

in 2014. He's a fellow of the Royal Society of Literature and of the Academy of Medical Sciences

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and a foreign honorary member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. He is honorary president

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of the International Center for Life in Newcastle. Matt also holds honorary doctorates from Buckingham

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University, Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory and University Francisco, American Guatemala. His books

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have sold over a million copies, been translated into 31 languages and have won several awards.

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His books include The Red Queen, The Origins of Virtue, Genome, Nature, Viannerture,

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Francis Crick, The Rational Optimist, The Evolution of Everything, How Innovation Works,

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and the revised and expanded version of his latest book, Viral, The Search for the Origin of

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COVID-19. We're going to talk about a variety of issues including not least the politicization of

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science and perhaps the politicization of everything, but I think maybe we'll start by walking through

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your book on the origin of COVID-19. The first thing I'm curious about, I suppose, is why did you decide

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