You know, maybe the architect doesn't know everything, maybe the builder doesn't know everything, but together we're a better team.

So it's all about the team that you kind of put together, the climate zone that you're in, the efficiency of the structure, the air performance to kind of get to this place.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast, our regular discussion with building

industry professionals. This is Senior Editor Patrick McComb. Today I'm joined by Emily Motrim of

Motrim Architecture in Cumberland, Maine,

and host of the BS and Beers Show and the E3 podcast. You can find the Fine Home Building Pro Talk

podcast and the original Fine Home Building podcast at fineholding.com slash podcast. Emily, thanks so much

for being on the show. Thanks for having me.

It's really nice to meet you in person.

I've been watching the BS and Beer Show for the last few weeks, and I greatly enjoy it.

And I tell everyone that I know to watch it, and you all who listen to this show should go to and watch it.

It's great.

You guys do a great job.

Thank you. So it started out as just making sure that our local group could, you know, that everybody was okay when the pandemic first started.

We met in person.

And it's really taken off since then.

And we've had a lot of great guests from all over the country on.

And it's pretty impressive that our community has rallied together. We should point out that the main contingent

was the original BS and beer group, right? It was. It was. Actually, the building science

discussion group of performance building supply was the original about 10 years ago. Steve got

people together at performance building supply and just said, hey, let's talk about these

things. And it's continued ever since then. And now there are chapters in many places, right?

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