31: Who Is America with Martha S. Jones

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Politics, News

4.5 • 616 Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Martha S. Jones joins Kimberly Atkins Stohr where they discuss her memoir, 'The Trouble of Color,' exploring themes of identity, family history, and the complexities of being Black in America. The discussion delves into the historical context of birthright citizenship, the erasure of Black history, and the importance of preserving family stories. Martha emphasizes the need for understanding one's roots and the significance of family narratives in shaping identity.

Find the book here: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/martha-s-jones/the-trouble-of-color/9781541601000/

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0:00.0	Wake up! The Jones is a redo in their garden! Love that porcelain paven and all that fencing.
0:05.4	I knew it. They've been with their landscaper to Jusen.
0:07.9	A mini-digger! No wonder she was so smug at Zumba! Right, I want a sunken seating area. She won't have that.
0:14.2	For materials, tool higher, timber and paving. Don't waste time. Duason's got the lot.
0:19.0	Like Teralis, porcelain paving from only 22 pounds per square meter.
0:22.4	Love it.
0:23.1	All trade prices exclude VAT at 20%.
0:25.9	So now you can keep up with the Joneses.
0:28.0	And the Evanses.
0:29.2	And the Patel's.
0:30.1	Not just us, not just black people.
0:32.1	Americans.
0:33.2	Not forget who we are, the good, the bad, the ugly, and the hopeful.
0:40.5	I'm Kimberly Atkins-Store, and this is Justice by Design.
0:46.5	There is a question that can be uncomfortable for anyone, but I think it resonates in a
0:52.9	particular way for black women. Who do you think you are?
0:58.5	It's a question that is often pregnant with mischaracterization and stereotypes and assumptions.
1:07.8	It's a question that's meant to often be a reminder of where you are and whether or not people think that you belong there.
1:18.1	But it's a question that is at the center of a new book that is written by my guest today, who I'm happy, is here with me because I think it opens the door
1:30.3	to answering a lot of questions about what we are seeing happening, playing out in the United
1:38.0	States and across the world right now. And my guest today is Martha Jones, who is the author of The Trouble of Color,
1:47.3	an American Family Memoir. She's also an historian at Johns Hopkins University and a friend of
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