In chess, what is White's first move in the ammonia opening?

The answer to that at the end of the show.

My name's Tom Scott, and this is Lateral.

Hello, and welcome to the podcast, where we turn conventional wisdom on its head,

shake it up, and see what comes out.

Personally, I'm expecting two nickels and a bubblegum wrapper. On today's show, we have magician,

author and podcaster, Nicholas J. Johnson. Thank you very much. I love that introduction.

Welcome back. This is your second time on the show. How are you doing? How did you feel about the last

episode? I felt okay. I was worried about embarrassing myself and I feel like I may have, but I did it in a way

that was true to myself, so that's okay. Next up, we have artist and YouTuber Sarah Renee Clark.

Hi, nice to be here again. Welcome back. I know this won't work in audio.

I'm just really impressed by the background behind you, which I assume is your own drawings and work?

It's, yes, it is, but it's actually all stickers.

It took two full days to make and cut out with a machine and put up like a jigsaw puzzle.

And it was a nightmare and I'm never doing it again.

And if you'd like to see that, you can go to a YouTube channel.

And lastly, today, but definitely not leastly, we have from Real Engineering, Brian McNanus.

Thank you. It's Good to be here again.

I feel like I need to add a few titles onto my name, just YouTube.

I mean, I get to say YouTuber and podcaster now,

but I got introduced as broadcaster and presenter a while back.

I'm like, oh, I like that.

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