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The Economics of Everyday Things

31. Superhot Chili Peppers

The Economics of Everyday Things

Freakonomics Network

Business

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2026

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

The market for gustatory pain is surprisingly competitive. Zachary Crockett feels the burn. This episode was originally published on January 7th, 2024.

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0:00.0

A few months ago, Ed Curry found himself lying down in the pouring rain in a state of agony.

0:09.4

His heart was beating fast, his arms were numb, and his mouth felt like it was on fire.

0:16.2

The heat pain lasted for about two hours, and then the cramps set in, and that lasted for about

0:23.5

four more, to the point where it just couldn't even move the cramps hurt so bad.

0:29.5

Curry had brought this suffering upon himself. He had just tasted the fruit of his own labor,

0:35.8

a hybrid chili pepper grown on his farm in South Carolina.

0:40.3

It's about the size of a golf ball. It's covered in bumps and spikes. And it just looks like

0:48.7

an apple that has gone through a Frankenstein. The oil gives it kind of a yellowish flemy tinge, and it's just

0:57.9

a brutal pepper. It's ugly. This little nugget of pure torture is called Pepper X. It's up to

1:04.8

a thousand times hotter than a jalapeno, and its kick is more powerful than most brands

1:10.2

of police-grade pepper spray.

1:12.7

It recently set a Guinness World record for the hottest chili pepper ever measured in a lab.

1:18.4

For Curry, Pepper X is the culmination of more than 20 years of crossbreeding.

1:23.6

Peppers aren't just his hobby.

1:25.4

They're his livelihood.

1:27.2

And the hotter they are, the better for

1:29.2

business. By making things hotter, we can produce products that are in your grocery store

1:39.0

right now at a cheaper cost. It's about economies of scale.

1:45.6

For the Freakonomics Radio Network, this is the economics of everyday things. I'm Zachary Crackett.

1:51.9

Today, the world's hottest peppers.

1:55.7

Before Ed Curry was growing hot peppers, he was on a path to self-destruction.

2:01.2

I was a big, fat, sloppy, drunk pig. I was a big fat, sloppy drunk pig, and I was smoking two packs of cigarettes a day,

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