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The Portal

31: Ryan Holiday - Conspiracy, Manipulation & other Pastimes

The Portal

Kast Media

Science, Society & Culture, Education

4.77.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2020

⏱️ 147 minutes

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Summary

Ryan Holiday is a master manipulator with a cool head, and keen eye for social observation and a big heart. Eric sits down with the Author of "Conspiracy" and tries to get a self-confessed former manipulator and one of the top emerging millennial social analysts to tell us how he unweaves society's artifices to see what is really driving our current moment across many areas. 

Ryan is a unique voice who uses stoicism to remain intellectually detached but without seemingly succuming to emotional or moral disinterest in the issues of our day. With a background in marketing and media. he has gone beyond mere vice signaling to try to help people see how open they are to having their own media and digital habits weaponized against them. In some ways, one could say that he has migrated from grey-hat mind hacker to a white hat analyst and conversationalist helping us to better understand ourselves using ancient wisdom in a modern moment.  

This interview was recorded slightly before the quarantining and so is interesting to think of in light of what is about to happen. 


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, this is Eric with a few initial thoughts before this week's episode.

0:10.6

First, I want to briefly discuss a pair of mistakes and emissions on my part.

0:14.5

To begin with, we released a portal special episode recently about a speculative theory

0:18.2

of physics called geometric unity, which was partially recorded on April 1st.

0:22.8

We did this so as to make use of the opportunity to attempt to repurpose the tired and increasingly

0:27.1

irritating April Fool's tradition of which many of us have grown bored.

0:31.4

I had intended to single out and call particular attention to a man who is very important

0:35.5

to the geometric unity theory as well as the portal project itself.

0:39.7

This is a man I think of as my uncle and who means the world to my family, Michael W. Brown,

0:44.4

former farmer and commercial fisherman who became the CFO of Microsoft and then the head

0:48.3

of the NASDAQ.

0:49.7

Years ago during the financial crisis, Mike invited me and my family to take over his two

0:53.7

small islands in the Puget Sound Archipelago and lead a renegade research-oriented science

0:58.4

camp.

0:59.4

We did this every summer there for many years, and these islands, now under new ownership,

1:03.2

are in fact the origin of the so-called double island rules that we discuss from time to

1:06.9

time, in which allowed us to get past issues of ego and miscommunication between intellectual

1:11.7

and domain-specific silos.

1:14.2

In any event, we, that is I, rushed to get the episode out for April 1st, and in my haste

1:18.7

I forgot to include the segment of special thanks due to Mike for a level of generosity,

1:23.3

wisdom, selflessness, risk-taking, leadership and brilliance that I honestly had previously

1:27.8

only seen in movies.

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