Hello and welcome to outrage and. This week we introduce our new book, and I'm Christina Pegez.

And I'm Paul Dickinson.

This week we introduce our new book The Future We Choose and tell you something about it.

And we speak to eco-philosifer Joseph. book The future we choose and tell you something about it.

And we speak to eco philosopher Joanna Macy.

Thanks for being here. Right, so nice to be back. It's been a week. Lots of interesting things going on. It's been a week.

Lots of interesting things going on. It's been a big week for Chris Jana and I. We've put the finishing touches to our book book which we've sent off to the publishers

and so we thought that this week Paul if you're up for it we thought we'd tell you about

the book please I've to learn more about the book. It sounds like a fascinating piece.

In fact, you haven't read it, have you?

I read large parts of it.

I really did, yeah, 100%.

Do we believe it?

Not really, but you know, that's part for the core.

What I did read, it was so fantastically good, I didn't feel any need to read any more of it.

But I am sorry to you're going to be hearing a lot about the book on this podcast

for the next few.

Good, good.

Okay, great.

So we've called the book The Future We Choose, and the first thing we should say

is that even though you can't actually have it delivered right now, it is available for

pre-order, so you can find more by going to

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